I'll Choose B. - Take Steps to Heaven From Earth
Another round with Anonymous.
Anonymous-
Ok, here we go some more. ;-)
I am not saying that all roads lead to the Antichrist, but what I am saying is that what is going to happen is bigger than you and me, it involves the higher powers between good and evil and we are unfortunately caught in the middle.
I follow you here. That is true we are all part of something bigger than ourselves.
We have the choice to decide which side we will be on, and we know who will win in the end, so it is up to us to make the right choices now.
I agree.
What is going to happen is scary, and naturally no one would want to go through it, so I understand why you would be eager and determined to try to change the script.
I'm sure you'd like to change the script too. I just have to convince you it's possible.
:-)
We need to discuss this issue of how sin came into the world and its significance related to end time events, you asked for a clarification of this, so here goes. When God first created mankind, Adam and Eve, there was no sin, no disobedience to God, everything was in harmony. The devil, or Satan, was not always a bad guy. In fact, he was one of God’s most beautiful and wonderful creations, he was set above all created beings and held a high position in the heavenly government. You can read more about this in the following link: (anonymous organization link) Anyway, because of Satan’s beauty and superiority, he became prideful and thought that because he’s so great the heavenly agencies should worship him like they worship God. So he revolted against God’s government upon this basis and also on the basis that angels and created beings don’t need to live by laws, they’re naturally “good” and don’t need restrictions through laws. The Bible tells us that there was war in heaven, and that Satan and all the angels who agreed with him lost the war and were cast out of heaven.
We know then that Satan tempted Adam and Eve into disobedience to God’s laws and that is how sin (which is the transgression of the law 1 John 3:4) came into our world. The penalty of sin is death, this was clearly pointed out before Adam and Eve sinned, so when they did disobey God, they were supposed to die, however, a plan was formed by the God head, this is known as the plan of Salvation. In this plan, instead of mankind dying and paying the penalty for their sin, God’s only begotten Son, Jesus, would come and die instead of mankind. Jesus would come to this earth, and live a life in complete obedience to God’s law and die instead of mankind. During the time that Jesus was here on earth, Satan had the opportunity to tempt Him as he had tempted mankind, into disobeying God’s laws. Satan wanted to show that no one could obey God’s laws, not even His own Son, but Jesus proved otherwise. Jesus lived a human life without disobeying God’s laws, even though Satan was always tempting Him, and He eventually died on the cross to save us from our sins and to provide us with divine help in overcoming sin and thus proving Satan wrong. The whole purpose why we are living right now is to learn about God, learn about why we were created, where we are going, and what the purpose of this life is. The events that have taken place since that first war in heaven are still in action, there is still war between the forces of good and evil, and like I said, we are caught in the middle. This war is happening and it is for us, and we need to choose our side right now because it will affect our eternal destiny. Time is short, Jesus is coming back to take all those who have fought a good fight and reward them with heaven, and we need to be ready because all those who are not ready obviously can’t go.
I like your last sentence. "Jesus is coming back to take all those who have fought a good fight..." That sounds like a happy scenario. And those people fighting the good fight are the ones trying to change the script of world self destruction, correct? Contrast that with people who don't want to fight at all but are content to continue with downing the blue pill so the status quo continues and nothing they do matters because all roads lead to the Anti-Christ and World War III.
As for the mythology of Adam, Eve, Satan and God's plan; I've heard it all before and was raised with the same script. I admit it has served humankind for thousands of years but now we have the potential to choose a better story. That doesn't mean you have to give up Jesus or Satan. These two can still remain prominent in your script. Jesus can represent all that is noble, just, loving and good in the universe. If he should come to save us from ourselves or from some sinister entity from the outside, I'd cheer him on. But keep an open mind and play with the idea that God might work through evolution and we are all the result of thousands of years of steady natural selection.
I have no problem with your religious script as long as it can be revised and our lives can be given meaning by contributing to the advancement of our species. Also, it would be nice if your script included a respectable place for those who don't follow your path but have built other scripts that reflect the good, the true and the beautiful through other means.
This is a complicated issue, and I have tried my best to present it in the briefest way I can think of. If you have understood the main concept, then great! If not, it is a complicated issue and I am willing to go step by step if you would like to learn more about all of this. There are so many things interrelated, and once this is understood, well, all of this would be clearer.
I appreciate your offer but remember I was raised on your paradigm. I've seriously considered it before but found a script that works better for me.
You are right, it wouldn’t make sense if we were the only intelligent life in this whole universe, the Bible tells us that we are not the only ones, there are other created beings, but they can not contact us because, like I said before, we are infected with the virus of sin, and contact with us can not be made until sin is eradicated. This will happen at the end of the world and when Jesus comes back again.
Perhaps what you call as sin or death is a part of life and we didn't do anything to deserve it. Maybe every advanced stage of life in the cosmos must first experience death. An Oak seed takes years to grow into it's full form as a tree and not because evil forces oppose it. So, in the same way humanity takes time to grow into it's full form of a united earth with liberty and justice for all. Maybe the death barrier is something our species will learn to transcend as a species a thousand or twenty thousand years from now.
Protests will only delay what is going to happen,
Ahhh! That's the hopeless script we have to change.
and if you feel that you should protest what is happening in the United States right now concerning the soon restrictions of our freedom, then go for it. Study this matter carefully so that you can be sure of the decisions and choices you make. Mainly, I encourage you to prepare yourself spiritually for what is about to happen, as we are trying to do our best in.
If you're talking about death, we would face that even if we stopped the armageddon you are preparing for. What life really comes down to is deciding in which way you want to live before you die. If you want to live with hope that you can make a difference, it may be more desirable than living like everything is hopeless and nothing can stop the fires of World War III from torching your city and the flesh off all your bones. :-( I'd prefer to die of old age with a family who loves me all around rather than listening to their anguished screams in a nuclear holocaust. :-(
I hope and pray that despite the extreme brevity with which these extremely profound issues have been discussed, all is clear and understandable.
If I'm an infidel and a future enemy of your Lord for not choosing your script, so be it. I'd oppose any fascist super being who tries to take over Earth and make everyone worship them as a God through means of force and fear.
Please let me know if there was one point that was not so clear and if you would like something to be addressed. I look forward to hearing from you again. Until then, God bless you!
Sincerely,
Anonymous
Anonymous Organization
Since you pretty much recycled things I've heard before, I won't need any clarification. I would enjoy continuing this dialogue if you want to.
May the Universe / God bless you too.
sincerely,
-Eli

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there's no denying, there are great changes, great plays underway on planet earth at the moment. All is clouded, and things done in darkness. I think Faith is the only tool we have against these forces.
blessings
Good stuff, Eli.
Light,
Leslie